Page 20. Yeah. So my interest, when I get into conversation with a poet, is not to talk about poetry, but to delve into what this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being fully human this adventure were all on that is by turns treacherous and heartbreaking and revelatory and wondrous. [2] Her guests include the 14th Dalai Lama, Maya Angelou, Mohammed Fairouz, Desmond Tutu, Thich Nhat Hanh, Rosanne Cash, Wangari Maathai, Yo-Yo Ma, Paulo Coehlo . is an independent nonprofit production of The On Being Project. And so thats really a lot of how I was raised. edges of the world, smudged by mist, a squirrels. Its got breath, its got all those spaces. A special offering from Krista Tippett and all of us at On Being: an incredible, celebratory event listening back and remembering forwards across 20 years of this show in the good company of our beloved friend and former guest, Rev. We were brought together in a collaboration between Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Milkweed Editions. Look, we are not unspectacular things. Ada Limn. Its the thing that keeps us alive. Shes teaching me a lesson. Youre never like, Oh, Im just done grieving. I mean, you can pretend you are, right, but we arent. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape, of age. Amanda Ripley began her life as a journalist covering crime, disaster, and terrorism. Tippett: Im really glad youre enjoying it because theres many more decades. fact-like take the trowel, plant the limp body We honor poets and poetry as necessary companions in mustering words spacious and generous enough to reach across the mystery of ourselves and the mystery of each other. And then thats also the space for us to sort of walk in as a reader being like, Whats happening here? But its true. And sometimes when youre going through it, you can kind of see the mono-crop of vineyards that its become. Who am I to live? Right? Musings and tools to take into your week. I think this poem, for me, is very much about learning to find a home and a sense of belonging in a world where being at peace is actually frowned upon. Want to Read. Tippett: I think grief is something that is very We have so much to grieve even as we have so much to walk towards. Tippett: As we turn the corner from pandemic, although we will not completely turn the corner, I just wanted to read something you wrote on Twitter, which was hilarious. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. by being seen. I trust those moments where it feels like, Oh, right, this is a weird. Language is strange, and its evolving. Our closing music was composed by Gautam Srikishan. They bring us together with others, again and again. And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. We keep forgetting about Antlia, Centaurus, But mostly were forgetting were dead stars too, my mouth is full, of dust and I wish to reclaim the rising, to lean in the spotlight of streetlight with you, toward. Its still the elements. for the safety of others, for earth, Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over And then you go, Oh no, no, thats just recycling. So thats in the poem. Limn: Yeah, I had a moment where I hadnt realized how delighted I was to go about my world without my body. But its also a land that is really incredibly beautiful and special and sacred in a lot of different ways. [audience laughs] And he had a little cage, I would make sure he was And he would get bundled up and carried from house to house. Yeah. And both parents all four of my parents, I should say would point those things out, that special quality of connectedness that the natural world offers us. We meet longings for justice and healing by equipping for reflection, repair, and joy. So how to get out? So anyway, I got The Hurting Kind, the galley in the mail from Milkweed. Tippett: And I also just wondered if that experience of loving sound and the cadence of this language that was yours and not yours, if that also flowed into this love of poetry. (Always, always there is war and bombs.) So it had this kind of wonderful way of existing in an aliveness of a language, aliveness of a second language as opposed to just sort of a need to get something or to use. And enough so that actually, as I would always sort of interrogate her about her beliefs and, Do you think this, do you think that? in an endless cave, the song that says my bones Oh, thank you. We believe healthy spiritual inquiry propels us outside the boundaries of the self, into the world. Yeah. On Being is an hour-long radio show and podcast, hosted by Krista Tippett. Its a source of a spiritual thoughtfulness that runs through this conversation with Krista. Tippett: You see what I did? All year, in an oblivion-is-coming sort of way. Its still the elements. And I am so thrilled to have this conversation with Ada Limn to be part of our first season. And that feels like its an active thing as opposed to a finished thing, a closed thing. And one of them this is also on. Ada Limn reads her poem, "Dead Stars.". Learn more at. Yeah. Articles by Krista Tippett on Muck Rack. Sometimes its just staring out the window. So well just be on an adventure together. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. The Fetzer Institute, supporting a movement of organizations applying spiritual solutions to societys toughest problems. The bright side is not talked about. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. But the song didnt mean anything, just a call, to the field, something to get through before, the pummeling of youth. Theres daytime silent when I stare, and nighttime silent when I do things. The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. I really love . Limn: Exactly. So Im hoping. Im learning so many different ways to be quiet. unnoticed, sometimes covered up like sorrow. Limn: Yeah, I was convinced. A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. I think thats very true. It makes room for all of these things that can also be It holds all the truths at once too. enough of the will to go on and not go on or how Between So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. Tippett: If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. And I think when were talking about this, were talking about who we are right now, because were all carrying this. not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, If you would like to hear an uplifting message at a time of global difficulty, come hear Krista Tippett speak at Central Congregational Church in Providence RI at 6:30 pm, Saturday, December 3. Between. Tippett: And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. Perhaps This means that I am in a reciprocal relationship with the natural world, not that it is my job to be the poet that goes and says, Tree, I will describe it to you.. Limn: Yeah, I think theres so much value in grief. Krista Tippett: I really believe that poetry is something we humans need almost as much as we need water and air. Yet it is a deep truth in life as in science that each of us is shaped as much by the quality of the questions we are asking as by the answers we have it in us to give. Nov 28, 2022. Tacos. Because you did write a great essay called Taco Truck Saved my Marriage.. The truth is, Ive never cared for the National And I was in the backyard by myself, as many of us were by ourselves. [laughs]. Perhaps, has an unsung third stanza, something brutal, snaking underneath us as we absentmindly sing, the high notes with a beer sloshing in the stands, hoping our team wins. And I knew that at 15. Once it has been witnessed Because I couldnt decide which ones I wanted you to read. Tippett: Was there a religious or spiritual background in your childhood there, however you would describe that now? We hold each other. At human pace, they are enlivening the world that they can see and touch. Tippett: To be made whole/ by being not a witness,/ but witnessed. Can you say a little bit about that? I write the year, seems like a year you In all kinds of lives, in all kinds of places, they are healers and social creatives. But mostly were forgetting were dead stars too, my mouth is full Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. love it again, until the song in your mouth feels My body is for me. [audience laughter] And it really struck me that how much I was like, How do I move through this world? Remembering what it is to be a body, I think to be a woman who moves through the world with a body, who gets commented on the body. So we have to do this another time. My mother says, Oh yeah, you say that now.. Why are all these blank spaces? It has silence built all around it. of the world is both gaze to lean in the spotlight of streetlight with you, toward in the ground, under the feast up above. And so I have I write. And then thats also the space for us to sort of walk in as a reader being like, Whats happening here? Limn: I think its definitely a writing prompt too, right? The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. the trash, the rolling containers a song of suburban thunder. And I was feeling very isolated. I grew up in Glen Ellen in Sonoma, California, born and raised. Once, I sang it at homecoming and threw Krista interviewed her in 2015, and it quickly became a much-loved show as her voice was just rising in common life. Precisely at a moment like this, of vast aching open questions and very few answers we can agree on, our questions themselves become powerful tools for living and growing. What Amanda has been gathering by way of answers to that question is an extraordinary gift to us all. "On Being," a weekly interview show about the mysteries of human existence, hosted by Krista Tippett, airs on nearly 400 public radio stations, with more than half a million weekly listeners . that sounds like someones rough fingers weaving Limn: Yeah. In between my tasks, I find a dead fledgling, I dont even mourn him, just all matter-of-, fact-like take the trowel, plant the limp body, thing, forever close-eyed, under a green plant, in the ground, under the feast up above. Many have turned to David Whyte for his gorgeous, life-giving poetry and his wisdom at the interplay of theology, psychology, and leadership his insistence on the power of a beautiful question and of everyday words amidst the drama of work as well as the drama of life. We want to orient towards that possibility. And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. On Being Studios's tracks [Unedited] Ocean Vuong with Krista Tippett by On Being Studios Robin is a botanist and also a member of the Citizen Potawatomi Nation. Oh, Im stressed. Oh, if you want to know about stress, let me tell you, Im stressed., I like to tell my friends when they say theyre really stressed, Ill be like, Oh, I took the most wonderful nap. And then what we find in the second poem is a kind of evolution. And isnt it strange that breathing is something that we have to get better at? Youll see why in a minute. And poetry, and poetry. to the field, something to get through before Our conversations create openings. Thats page 95. And then I would say in terms of the sacred, it was always the natural world. We read for sense. My body is for me.. But you said I dont know, I just happened to be I saw you again today. Too high for most of us with the rockets Starting Thursday, February 2: three months of soaring new On Being conversations, with an eye towards emergence. But then I just examine all the different ways of being quiet. Also because so much of whats been and again, its not just in the past, what has happened, has been happening below the level of consciousness in our bodies. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. Tippett: Because I couldnt decide which ones I wanted you to read. Krista Tippett, host of award-winning NPR program "On Being", and poet David Whyte discusses several of the life-sized concepts addressed in Tippet's book, _. rough wind, chicken legs, when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly We prioritize busyness. The caesura and the line breaks, its breath. nest rigged high in the maple. The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. Tippett: No, theres so much to enjoy. With. It suddenly just falls apart, and I feel like there are moments that I travel a lot in South America, with my husband, and by the end of the second week, my brain has gone. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the . Page 87. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the mystery of others. And theyre like, Oh, I didnt know that was a thing.. I also think aging is underrated. Limn: Yeah. and over against the ground, sometimes. not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, enough of the will to go on and not go on or how, a certain light does a certain thing, enough, of the kneeling and the rising and the looking. A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. And the Sonoma Coast is a really special place in terms of how its been preserved and protected throughout the years. Okay, Im going to give you some choices. I feel like that between space, that liminal space, is a place where we were living for so long, and many of us still living in that between space of, How do I go into the world safely, and how do I move through the world with safety and care-take myself and care-take others. And so I think my investigation or my curiosity is not so much talking about poetry, but about where poetry comes from in us and what poetry works in us. In generational time, they are stitching relationship across rupture. So I think thats where, for me, I found any sort of sense of spirituality or belonging. I wrote it and then I immediately sent it to an editor whos a friend of mine and said, I dont know if you want this. And it was up the next day on the website. I almost think that this poem could be used as a meditation. The conversation that resulted with the Jewish-Buddhist teacher and psychotherapist Sylvia Boorstein has been a companion to her and to many from that day forward. Limn: Yes. and desperate, enough of the brutal and the border, enough of can you see me, can you hear me, enough. You should take a nap. [laughter] I know its cruel. [laughs] I get four parents that come to the school nights. And I felt like I was not brave enough to own that for myself. It is still the river. These are heavier, page 86 and page 87. Tippett: Just back to this idea that there is this organic automatically breathing thing of which were part, and that we even have to rediscover that. Tippett: Well, a lot of us I think are still a little agoraphobic. Tippett: Which also makes it spiritual practice. big enough not to let go: It is the world and the trees and the grasses and the birds looking back. Her six books of poetry include, most recently, The Hurting Kind. It was interesting to me to realize how people turned to you in pandemic because of who you are, it sounds like. even the tenacious high school band off key. Im really glad youre enjoying it because theres many more decades. You said there in a place, as Ive aged, I have more time for tenderness, for the poems that are so earnest they melt your spine a little. Then three years later, Tippett left American Public Media to create her own production company, Krista Tippett Public Productions, which has aligned with WNYC/New York Public Radio to distribute the show to affiliates nationwide. Because how do we care for one another? Before the koi were all eaten In a political and cultural space that rewards certainty, ferments argument, and hastens closure, we nourish and resource the interplay between inner life, outer life, and life together. Ive been reading Ada Limn for years, and was so happy when she was named the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. But I mean, Ive listened to every podcast shes done, so Im aware. And you could so a lot of what he knew in Spanish and remembered in Spanish were songs. And you mentioned that when you wrote this, when was it that you wrote it? Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. From Feb 2: three months of soaring conversations to live and grow with with an eye towards emergence. Cracking time open, seeing its true manifold nature, expands a sense of the possible in the here and the now. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. And you also wrote about that, and you also wrote this essay. Too high for most of us with the rockets. Would you read this poem, The End of Poetry, which I feel speaks to that a bit. And I think its in that category. The poets brain is always like that, but theres a little I was just doing the wash, and I was like, Casual, warm, and normal. And I was like, Ooh, I could really go for that.. Ive got a bone. [laughter]. And Im sure it does for many of you, where you start to think about a phrase or a word comes to you and youre like, Is that a word? Youre like, With. Krista Tippett has spent more than a decade exploring important questions of life, questions that often involve faith, science and spirituality on her popular radio program and podcast, "On Being." Krista Tippett. I think we all came a little bit more alive. When you open the page, theres already silence. And thought, How am I right now at this moment? Okay. You ever think you could cry so hard Jen Bailey, and so many of you. The original idea, when we say like our, thesis statement, or even when we say like. [audience laughs] But instead to really have this moment of, Oh, no, its our work together to see one another. Limn: Yeah. In me, a need to nestle deep into the safekeeping of sky. To be swallowed just the bottlebrush alive Krista Tippett is a Peabody-award winning broadcaster, National Humanities Medalist, and New York Times bestselling author. We can forget this. I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. That just took me back to this moment in the pandemic where I took so many walks in my neighborhood that Ive lived in for so many years and saw things Id never seen before, including these massive Just suddenly looking down where the trees were and seeing and understanding, just really having this moment where I understood that its their neighborhood and Im living in it. On Being is an independent nonprofit production of The On Being Project. And so thats really a lot of how I was raised. no hot gates, no house decayed. Tippett has interviewed guests ranging from poets to physicists, doctors to historians, artists to activists. , there are these two poems on facing pages, that both have fire in the title. Well, a lot of us I think are still a little agoraphobic. no one has been writing the year lately. If you live, Winters icy hand at the back of all of us. And whats good for my body and my mental health. All of those things. No, question marks. Tippett: [laughs] Yeah. And just as there are callings for a life, there are callings for our time. We hold each other. All of this, as Dacher sees it now, led him deeper and deeper into investigating the primary experience of awe in human life moments when we have a sense of wonder, an experience of mystery, that transcends our understanding. I could be both an I if we declared a clean night, if we stopped being terrified, if we launched our demands into the sky, made ourselves so big. Im so excited for your tenure representing poetry and representing all of us, and Im excited that you have so many more years of aging and writing and getting wiser ahead, and we got to be here at this early stage. An electric conversation with Ada Limns wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. But when we talk about the limitations of language in general, I find language is so strange. But I love it. Shes written, Science polishes the gift of seeing, Indigenous traditions work with gifts of listening and language. An expert in moss a bryologist she describes mosses as the coral reefs of the forest. Robin Wall Kimmerer opens a sense of wonder and humility for the intelligence in all kinds of life we are used to naming and imagining as inanimate. Tippett: I wrote in my notes, just my little note about what this was about, recycling and the meaning of it all. I dont think thats [laughter]. But time is more spacious than we imagine it to be, and it is more of a friend than we always know. What, she asks, if we get this right? Every Thursday a new discovery about the immensity of our lives and frequent special features like poetry, music and Q + A with Krista. Limn: I think the failure of language is what really draws me to poetry in general. I cannot reverse it, the record, chaotic track. It was interesting to me to realize how people turned to you in pandemic because of who you are, it sounds like. Amanda Ripley began her life as a journalist covering crime, disaster, and terrorism. Page 20. And for us, it was Sundays. But I also feel a little bit out of practice with this live event thing. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. She loves human beings. I have a lot of poems that basically are that. to pick with whoever is in charge. Something that you reflect on a lot that I would love to just draw you out on a bit is I think people who love language the most, and work with language, also are most intensely aware of the limits of language, and thats partly why youre working so hard. back and forth on Sundays and it was not easy These full-body experiences of isolation and ungrieved losses and loneliness and fear and uncertainty. Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. Limn: I remember writing this poem because I really love the word lover, and its a kind of polarizing word. We say, Oh, I want to write about this flower. And then we say, Why this flower? out. No, theres so much to enjoy. should write, huge and round and awful. And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine.. From the earliest years of his career, he investigated how emotions are coded in the muscles of our faces, and how they serve as moral sensory systems. He was called on as Emojis evolved; he consulted on Pete Docters groundbreaking movie Inside Out. And I hope, I dont think anybody here will mind. Nick Offerman has played many great characters, most famously Ron Swanson in Parks and Recreation, and he starred more recently in an astonishing episode of The Last of Us. And its always an interesting question because I feel like my process changes and I change. Limn: Yeah. Yeah. Enough of osseous and chickadee and sunflower. If you are here, you are likely already part of this. And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. But I think the biggest thing for me is to begin with silence. We understand questions as technologies and virtues as social arts. 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