The aircraft was powered by a 200hp (150kW) Lycoming IO-360 Special engine driving a two-bladed propeller. tan -1 (1/14) or tan -1 (0.714) or 4.086 degrees. Note as you have increased your IAS (v2) a subsequent decrease in your Angle of attack (cL) is required. Dec 19 2022. When introduced, it featured wood-spar wings and oleo-shock main gear. for approved maneuvers in the acrobatic category. The pilot did an awesome job, cool as a cucumber. There is a forward component of weight (relative to Drag) that moves the aircraft forward. Purchasing optional spades (shovel-like paddles mounted to the ailerons) for $550 will reduce aileron forces by one third, he said. N574KS, Glider: GrobG 102 Astir CSTail #: The extra power afforded by the larger Lycoming shows up mostly in greater climb rates, rather than flat-out cruising speed. If the C-172 has an L/D of 9.5. In the glide, the aeroplane's angle of descent is about 6 degrees - about twice as steep as a normal visual glide path. Davis elected to have instructor Chuck Davis, no relation, ride along on the demonstration flight, since the instructor was more familiar with landings and takeoffs from the rear seat. (Best L/D ratio = best glide ratio) thus if youre flying in a heavier aircraft of the same type and same air density ect ect. 1974 AMERICAN CHAMPION 7-KCAB CITABRIA New Item. One glide I did from 7500' down to the surface at ~800 MSL resulted in an 11.54 glide ratio. The glide ratio is based only on the relationship of the aerodynamic forces acting on the aircraft. Production history [ edit] One point did seem worrisome, however. The outer shape of the fuselage is created by a combination of wooden formers and longerons, covered with fabric. Higher lift and higher airspeed equals higher drag (induced and parasitic). So if I were at 10000 feet and lost all my engines, I could expect to glide about 30 miles. by the manufacturer or FAA. Intended as a lower-priced competitor to the Piper Super Cub, Mehlhaff sees it as a utility aircraft, whether it be on floats or skis, and as a glider tug aircraft. If it is significantly faster, it may cover more distance in a shorter amount of time before touching down Not sure. The airplane is approved for day and night VFR operations when equipped in accordance with F.A.R. For a 172, there is a significant difference between powered L/D vs gliding L/D due to the additional drag of a non-powered rotating propeller. A wide panel holds all the latest avionics we're in 1968, so that includes a . So based on the information above. WHAT HAPPENS IF WE INCREASE THE WEIGHT THE VERY MOMENT THE GLIDE STARTS? But the best glide speed for the SR20 is put close to 100 knots, with the DA40 at 70. It's easier from the back seat, but that's not where you solo this aircraft. American Champion expects to begin building the 7GCAA in a year, but with a 160-hp engine. Holy Smokes thats a good question! It can be used for spin training with tailweights added. Mark, not exactly. A sport pilot must pay at least half the operating expenses of the flight. Heres one from aerodynamics test: Daher Kodiak 100 Specifications. An orificed one-way check valve allows a minimum of fuel to be vented overboard during negative G aerobatic maneuvers. The Glide Ratio calculator computes the glide ratio based on the change in forward distance and the change in altitude. If you wish to make some sort of pursuasive argument then post up some horrid examples of glide ratios for twins. Since its reintroduction, the Super Decathlon has sold steadily. In this example, the glide ratio provided in the POH comes out . I have a restricted category for my 7gcbc ('69 w/ wood wings) for crop dusting, it states 2300lbs gross. When American Champion reintroduced the 7ECA in 1995 as the Citabria "Aurora, " the biggest change was the use of metal-spar wings; the most recent significant design change has been the switch to aluminum main gear legs in 2004. The new Cessna 177 Cardinal with its cantilever, laminar-flow wing offering terrific visibility is a doll to fly, a step above its trusty-yet-pedestrian predecessor. Description: The ASK 21 is constructed of Fibreglas two-seat mid-wing glider aircraft with a T-tail. A sport pilot may: Share the operating expenses of a flight with a passenger, provided the expenses involve only fuel, oil, airport expenses, or aircraft rental fees. Solo Date: November 19, 2022. This airplane is certificated in the normal and acrobatic categories. A car that has alot of horsepower is 300+. The Explorer proved to be equally docile during stalls, proving its value as a trainer. The math looks like this: 1.5 nm * 6076.12 ft = 9114.18 ft. Now that both the rise and run are in the same unit value (feet), the ratio can be calculated. a pretty decent policy in airplanes is that if you can see it over the nose there is good odds you can't make it there. The 7GCBA (ag spray plane) is certified to 2400lbs (I admit I know nothing about it's structure). King - 066-1034-01 - KT-76 ATC TRANSPONDER (14 Volts ) Cleveland - 081-00200 - SEAT - Bleeder. Disclaimer: Information on this site may not be accurate or current and is not valid for flight planning or any other aircraft operations. Airplanes fly on excess power, not grace, not engineering. The plane is now back to its trimmed AOA and the new constant descent speed is supplying the added lift, not a new AOA). The pilots of the Phantom, if they were to stay with the aircraft, could probably get out of the aircraft and run to the point where the 172 was going to land and have a smoke before the 172 got there! Designed for flight training, utility and personal use, it is capable of sustaining aerobatic stresses from +5g to -2 g. Its name spelled backwards, "airbatic", reflects this. Best glide ratio is the most optimal - the highest - one. Agree, especially if you mean the hershey bar variety. Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by Morne, Dec 21, 2011. average spam cans seem to be right around 8 or 9:1. Aircraft specification no. Available in several versions, with varying powerplants and equipment, the Citabria and its stablemate, the Decathlon, have a great deal to recommend them to the recreational flyer. Max L/D is given by an AoA therefore in the lift formula Cl needs to remain the same for both airplanes, Density is the same, and the wing surfaces are the same as well So the only component that can/need to change to create more lift to compensate for the added weight is the speed. We purchased it from Doug Cline in 2019. The angle to the left wing from the pilot eyes is around 5.4 degrees. Wow! 8-10:1. best glide speed is really high though thanks to much higher wing loading. The Explorer likes to fly. Not to mention a "what the heck, let's roll it airplane." Ceiling: 17,000. The major improvement in Bellanca's introduction of the Super Decathlon was the change of engine to the Lycoming AEIO-360-H1A or H1B, both of 180 horsepower (130kW), which was accompanied by a selection of constant speed propellers. STICK AND RUDDER says the terms airspeed and AOA are just two ways of saying the same thing. You can see the image damage at the end of the video. While the Citabria designs remain successful, and the introduction of the 7KCAB variant of the Citabria had added limited inverted flight capability, the Citabrias are not capable of "outside" maneuvers, those requiring significant negative-g loads. [2] It was a parasol winged monoplane, with a revised wing section and a longer fuselage. Though variants of the design, and other better-suited designs have largely taken over the Citabria's utility roles, Citabrias remain popular as trainers, glider towplanes, and for personal use. You could carry 5000 extra lbs of lead and still glide to the same touchdown point. So tell me (Jim and Paul) what is the AoA for my Citabria or C172 ? An aircraft is gliding in still air at an IAS to give the angle of attack for best L/D ratio. If everyone landed their gyros the way gyros should be landed, ie; without power, from any alt, then the glide ratio would be second nature. The American Champion Super Decathlon uses the AEIO-360-H1B, along with a constant speed propeller. Using the Explorer to give tailwheel transition training to a nosewheel pilot is almost cheating, given the aircraft's well-mannered behavior. 1. Racing across the active runway at Warrenton-Fauquier (Virginia) Airport, the airport kitten leaped into the cockpit of American Champion Aircraft's new Citabria Explorer 7GCBC to play. Drag is apposed by thrust. A Cessna 172 might glide at 8:1, so it could go 8000 feet forward for each 1000 feet it lost at a Vg of 65 knots indicated (KIAS). If you have a GPS just hold an airspeed, throttle back, decend a fixed amount and see how far you went. Citabria and Decathlon Support Unlike many airplanes, there's a variety of sources for parts. This change gives the Decathlon better inverted flight and negative-g maneuver capabilities. So if he creates a few wings sets (6 or 7) with the same surface and varying only the cord and span starting with low aspect moving onto high aspect and seeing which ones glide furthersomewhere in there he would find the "right" AR. A 1.7 NM per 1000 feet glide is an angle of 5.5 degrees, Arc-Tan (1000/ (1.7*6076)) = 5.5 degrees. The L/D ratio and the glide ratio are always equal in steady-state linear unpowered flight in still air, but they are not equal if there is some thrust from a motor. It was substantially similar to the 7GCAA of the same year, with a Lycoming O-320-A2B engine of 150 horsepower (110kW), wood-spar wings, and spring steel main gear legs. Further improvements to the 7GCBC include use of the heftier front wing strut from a Decathlon, which is attached to the wing with a beefed-up end fitting. Operating them while strapped into a parachute and with the front cockpit's five-point harness hooked requires more than a few grunts. Then add a metal prop or a starter and battery, and a wing tank . Does the extra weight provide the extra energy to offset the extra drag? Instructor Davis said the aircraft requires a long, flat approach, but that was inhibited somewhat at Warrenton by trees off the approach end. ? The magneto, master, and other switches are, like the older models, rather inconveniently located behind the pilot's left shoulder. This could possibly be the OLDEST thread every resurrected! More Info. To BART, Jan 10, 2015: The engine is a Lycoming Model O-235-K2C and is rated at 118 horsepower. Variations in aircraft weight do not affect the glide angle . Steve Fossett was flying a Bellanca-built Super Decathlon when he went missing on September 3, 2007. The strut-braced wings of the Decathlon are, like the fuselage and tail surfaces, fabric covered, using aluminum ribs. When imported it was registered in the USA - as an A model. Propelle: Sensenich 74DM6S8-1. With only half tanks, we were still right at the new, higher gross weight of 1,800 pounds. Every once in a while I get a question on askacfi.com that Im pretty sure is a homework question but I still dont mind answering it. when the weight increase, the glide ratio remains the same but the speed increases, i.e. And it means you have more vertical speed to arrest in that latter phase. I used the following estimates. A typical American training glider has a glide ratio of about 24:1. Try to run your car at 75% power and see how long it lasts. American Champion Aircraft Corporation acquired the Decathlon design, along with the 8GCBC Scout and the group of Citabria and Champ variants, in 1990, bringing the Super Decathlon version back into production that same year. Within the first year of production, Champion began offering the Lycoming O-235-C1 engine of 115 horsepower (86kW) as an alternative to the Continental. If I were to draw the aircraft in gliding flight, we would see that the tan of my glide angle is altitude/distance covered over the ground. How do you determine the best engine off glide ratio in a gyro? The 1979 book I have has performance charts, but my 2001 book doesn't. Go figure. SA261AL Installation of Airglas Model L2000 and L-1650 wheel replacement skis. I couldn't find a glide ratio for a spitfire. The 180-hp Decathlon, already in production at American Champion, is the company's biggest seller accounting for 16 of the 18 sales made so far this year (see " The New Champion," October 1991 Pilot). Description: The G102 Astir is a single seat fibreglas 15m Standard Class sailplane with a retractable wheel, designed by and built by Grob Aircraft, with the first flight in December 1974. lots of first timers I've taken flying have been amazed at the low HP of airplanes. American Champion Aircraft Corporation acquired the Citabria, Decathlon, and Scout designs in 1989 and returned the 7ECA, 7GCAA, and 7GCBC models to production over a period of years. This is before CAM8 increase. Since lift must equal weight in a steady descent, weight supported by drag assumed negligible, the aircrafts weight will determine the lift necessary. The heavier the aircraft is, the higher the airspeed must be to obtain the same glide ratio. Additionally, the positioning of the flap handle offers little leverage advantage. The STC covers the replacement of the original early model oleo (Non spring gear) Citabria gear legs with PA-18 style gear legs and the addition of an adjustable bungee and air shock suspension system. Like the Champ, the Citabria features tandem seating. 3, 2005.) You would have to have a different attitude (sight picture) to achieve this. Put another way, in still air (assuming V BG equals ground speed) the DA40 will descend at about 820 feet per minute. Can you or anyone judge 6.01 deg glide path (not angle of attack) Obstacle: 850 ft. VNO(Maximum Structural Cruising): 120mph. . ** Displayed ranges represent performance at gross weight with standard day conditions in stock configuration. Glide ratio is defined as the ratio between altitude when it start gliding (Y-axis) to the distance it can reach until the altitude reach zero (X-axis), as shown in the picture 2. Aircraft.com is the leading registry for planes, jets, and helicopters. Throttle - CLOSED when in gliding distance or runway 3. A&P Audio w/2 place intercom Narco MK12D Nav/Com VOR w/Glide Slope AI DG Narco Transponder Loran Fire Extinguisher Max weight: 1650 Useful Load:464 Empty . Higher lift requires higher airspeed for same AOA. Introduced in 1964, the 7ECA was the first version of the design and utilized the Continental O-200-A engine of 100 horsepower (75 kW). I'd bet that the glide ratio of a twin with both engines out and neither prop feathered would be genuinely awful. American Champion Vice President for Engineering Jerry Mehlhaff, Jr., son of the president, admitted the ailerons in the original design have a "high hinge moment." Empty Weight: 1200 lbs. Do you disagree? Fuel Capacity: 36 gal. Why? Is posible descent the same distance from the same altitude and land at the same point with diferent angles? i dont see it. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Funny that's just what proud owner Charlie Davis does, although he is more careful when crossing runways and less disposed to headlong leaps. Vy in your airplane is 69 mph. HOLY COW!! It is also certified for aerobatic flight. Gliding is a descending, opposite of climbing, which is ascending. The most noticeable external changes to the design are the Citabria's squared-off rudder surface, wingtips, and rear windows. Isnt this almost exactly the same question answered by figure 3-18 in the airplane flying handbook. Also, there is no thrust to move the aircraft. Really ? The lighter? The extra energy from the weight does nothing to the drag. Department of Transportation. Well I stuck my neck out on this one. Federal Aviation Administration. Notice, there is no weight given here. The major differences between the7GCAA and 7KCAB were in the fuel system and the engine oil system. The Decathlon was designed by the Champion Aircraft Corporation, and is a derivative of the 7-series Citabrias. Especially when the angle is so slight. A little extra airspeed has minimal effect, but a little too slow is bad. The 7GCAA was basically the same as the 7ECA, but with a 150-hp engine. On the aircraft I fly, the 744, at high gross weights, the ratio approaches almost 4:1, the aircraft doesn't want to come down at all. The landing gear of the Decathlon is in a conventional arrangement. They also now manufacture the Citabria Adventure and the Citabria Explorer. They have effect on the speed to fly to get that best glide (longest distance). Designed for flight training, utility and personal use, it is capable of sustaining aerobatic stresses from +5g to -2g. 2023 GlobalAir.com. 1. Our FLSC Pegasus is a B model that has a carbon fiber main spar, The wing, downsized from a Champion Scout, was made more rigid intentionally to improve lift and roll rate. With no other changes the plane starts too fall. The glide ratio varies with air speed, but there is a maximum value which is frequently quoted. Bellanca continued production of the 7GCAA as the Citabria "A" Package (a designation apparently begun by Champion), but with no significant design changes. Description: Our Club purchased this glider simulator in 2019 for our students from Russell Holtz. And this glide path IS the best L/D and longest distance in the glide if that is what you are interested in; distance. HERES WHERE MY THINKING MAY GET SCREWED UP. SPECIFICATIONS. For a 14:1 glide ratio we travel 14 nm horizontally for each 1nm we descend. 2. twins are probably in the same range for engine out L/D i.e. The main gear legs of most Decathlons are made of spring steel, though American Champion began to use aluminum gear legs in 2004. A modern German counterpart about 33:1. The real-world measurements I've done with our 182 resulted in a 7.04:1 glide ratio. Champion introduced the 7GCBC in 1965. I do engine off landing all the time.. They're located in Rochester, Wisconsin (262-534-6315), or on the web at www.amerchampionaircraft.com. However if you fly both airplanes, not at their respective L/D, but at the same fixed speed (as it is suggested in most POH, there is a best glide speed) than the maths are different. This describes me. Cruise speed: 126 mph. 10-11:1 otherwise. The prototype had an open cockpit for a single pilot, but the design allowed for conversion to a two seat layout. Bank Angle Remember weight does affect stall speed. 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