Its endlessly fascinating. All until they were diagnosed w/asthma then Shanann w/ her neck surgery which out of pockets 25,000. Shananns behavior is not odd at all, in fact, its pretty much how people act when they no longer want to be with you. R38, Id love to know how they were able to afford their lifestyle, too. Rewatching the confession viedo. Watts repeatedly talks about the murder of Shanann as this moment where he snapped because she supposedly threatened to take the kids away from him. Was he going to explode them in a tank and then sue? Please click here to update your account with a username and password. I'm a Frau who loves THRIVE! Its clear the NC house layout was inspiration to the CO home that was customized. I also think she used her physical hardships once again to play on his sympathies, sort of like a book of struggles, but he had already turned a deaf ear. Sandra Rzucek wrote that in her 2018 letter to the DA. No wonder Chris was amazed with NK. And Shanann. If so, nice of him not to say so. But I do view him as a victim. So all around, it would have been a lose-lose. The underlying issues can be difficult to fully define, and for some, may take several years/ repeat doctor visits. r255/r257 is a moron. Shanann was born January 10, 1984 in New Jersey to Frank Rzucek and Sandra Onorati Rzucek. ^^ he would excuse her cunty behavior by saying she was having a bad day but it happened all the time. LEONARD actually did not know SHANANNs last name until a few days ago. The parents are very proud of their low cost, cruelty free diets, but the kids dont, well, thrive on it. For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. He was booked on three counts each of first-degree murder and tampering with physical evidence on Thursday. May be she aspired to live a little beyond their means but she didnt kill anyone not does that make her evil. The person who deserves the credit for masterminding this sick scheme is Nichol Kessinger. The comments below have not been moderated, By LOL. If he had killed Sham'ann before she was pregnant and left the kids alive, he wouldve had a chance at pleading temp insanity. Man, I wish he had consulted a lawyer. R154: why did Chris have her sell her house, drag her across the country, purchase a $400K house he could not afford in his name only, then murder her and their children? They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. Thank you so much for providing all of the analyzation and conclusion because it defines this case as it was and is. Watts said in televised interviews that she arrived home at around 1am on Monday August 13, claiming that that they two stayed up having an 'emotional conversation' until he left at 5.15am. $150,000 equity would have been swallowed up by realtor fees leaving the two of them not much. I truly hope a movie is made of her in an honest light. site without all this bureaucratic nonsense, R194, the Murder Rap Sesh lady interviewed Candice Cans Nantz, who claims to have dated Chris on and off for two years in NC. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. Maybe he didn't want to be full-time parent. Despite having the same triggers, we never had attacks at the same time. She was the store manager. I can only imagine the medical problems that Nico would be born with R231, yes! Nichol Kessinger and Chris Watts started speaking at work in June 2018, and by July 2018, the pair had started a romantic relationship. How did they qualify for such a large mortgage with the former bankruptcy etc. Pediatricians screen for it as a matter of course. Not only the people, but the backdrop to the story: middle class striving, cheap looking overpriced McMansion, Colorado oil country, an MLM scheme financially bleeding the couple, the killer husband's mistress, strife with the in-laws, posing on Instagram as if you've got life all figured out, showing off all the materialistic crap you charged on credit cards, etc. A new documentary on the Watts family murders shines a spotlight on the deteriorating relationship between Colorado family annihilator Chris Watts and his wife, Shanann. Chris was a real bore, apparently. Unlike you, who apparently defines his evaluation of a situation by what he is spoon-fed, rather than by investigating for himself, or by asking questions about the LE interpretation of data. Oh, and one of her friends was a tanning salon owner. And he knew that in her vindictiveness she would use the children as pawns and weapons. The coldness is just stunning. She was a malignant narcissist who wrecked havoc when she was questioned. This is sweet as well. Of course we can say nice things about her, too. No wonder murder seemed like a reasonable option. She was desperate when she realized he was done. He couldve extracted himself from Shanann without too much damage. What's fascinating about her, OP? Shanann was going to become just like her mother and Chriss mother. Watts was convicted of strangling his wife, Shanann, 34, in the house and then smothering his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, at his work site. Suffering. I didnt like her at all, I basically agree with half the folks on here in that she was an attention seeking, materialistic, annoying AF Frau. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts Anyway, Chris apparently told detectives some more details about his crime according to local news reports today, but the reports didn't say what. Rinse and repeat in Colorado except the down payment probably came out of Chris's and/or her parents (who also filed bk) bank accounts. Oh yes. Identity is an interesting thing. You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. After several days of publicly protesting that he had not seen his wife or daughters after leaving for work on Monday, Watts broke down and confessed to the murders on Wednesday, police said. Doubtful, and is most likely the second (or third or fourth) time Shanann lies about medical costs to cover her ridiculous spending habits. But you can see a pattern here, with Shanann Pouring herself into work and not being interested in any of the things he was up to. R89, what EVIDENCE is there that Shanann had lupus or infertility? Long gone are the days where a Dad is left penniless and without children, although so many posters think that is the deal. LEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive.". What if he really doesnt love me anymore? (He was moved out of Colorado for security reasons.). She stayed at home all day gaming while her wife worked full time at Kohls. He said that she used it constantly when he knew her and she was very well attached to it. Police say that Christopher Watts, 33, was arrested in connection with the murder of his wife, Shanann Watts, 34, and two daughters, Celeste and Bella, ages 3 and 4, according to police . R96 I think its because Chris and Scamanne were relatively attractive people and yet their union produced such unfortunate looking kids. Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? Shanann was so excited to have her first baby girl. Financially she had left him no way out. If the tables had been turned, you bet it would have been called abuse. And she had turned thee dining room into a clothing store with commercial racks filled with clothes. Interview concluded at 1448 hour. I just dont get that at all. That is a comment that should never have been said; parenthood is exhausting and social media never forgives human missteps. I disagree r147, not with your assertions about how the kids would've ended up, but with Chris taking any of it into consideration. to brutally cutting off their air supply & feeling nothing as they grunt and move around under the Yankees blanket struggling to breathe? Once she was done, she cut herself off from him. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. I spoke with LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. her husband texted back in June when she sent him a photo of her ultrasound picture, according to a screengrab she posted on Facebook. R157, you're right. That's an interesting piece of information. I should have been tipped off when I saw how close the Watts' house was to Nosy Nate's; they could have passed a cup of sugar without leaving their kitchens. Being fascinated by all this doesn't mean we want to FREE CHRIS or Shan'ann DESERVED TO DIE, let alone the two innocents. Shanann and her two daughters, Bella and Celeste, were reported missing on August 13, 2018 in Frederick, Colorado. Do you know where she's at?" I have no use for him, but if the tables were turned, and the husband was filming, itd be seen as abusive. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Probably. I've been following the story somewhat closely, too. I got smacked around for saying it, but Chris is boring and shes much more interesting. He must have hated them, because he spared them no suffering and didnt every try to shield them from their mothers murder in any way. Google 'Bella and Celeste Watts People.com' under Google images. There were no albuterol pumps or nebulizers then. She wanted the large house. Chris is a total hottie, Shanan was a a lucky gal. He knows his wife is in CONSTANT contact with her friends. And she DID turn the kids against Chris. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. John Forbes officiating. Chris even said to the investigators at one point: Bellas a smart girl, she knew what was going on. He was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. How do you think she bought that house on a retail managers salary? "Red-Handed" has a pretty good podcast about the case. Ill never get tired of speculating about her Munchhausens. No doubt he snapped. Shes the most interesting one, isnt she? Study up! Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. lol, Chris Watts is a victim of his own choices, that's about it. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. The only other option would have been for Chris to be full-time parent. and missed three mortgage payments on the house that they couldn't afford. She shared every fucking thing on social media. Chris and Shanann met in 2010 in their home state of North Carolina and got married on Nov. 3, 2012. I just think he lost it. Hello and thank you for being a DL contributor. That makes sense. WTF. Was she banging him, too? And that anyone who wants to dissect the situation, including dissecting the victim, is also CRAZY and therefore thinks the perp should go free and the victim deserved to die. All parents would want the best education for their children. R211, they should have used a female investigator with gigantic breasts, grating voice and bossy demeanor. Please click here to register for free. Hours later, Chris killed her and the girls. What's the source on that 500k figure? That router article is amazing work Nick! Chris isnt going anywhere, so he should turn her in. Chris Watts is a textbook Malignant-Covert Somatic Narcissist. And did she legally change it? Was Saturday 25 Six Nations RUGBY UNION BBCI, ITV1 & S4C The third week of the contest sees title favourites Ireland travel to Rome to face Italy (ITV1, k-o 2.15pm), before Wales welcome England to Cardiff's Principality Stadium (BBC1 & S4C, k-o 4.45pm). And worse he crushed his own murdered childrens skulls through a narrow opening into an oil drum. No college degree, working as a manager of a tire/rim shop, builds a gigantic house. At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. R197, If you watch the videos when she live-streams from the deck, back beyond their house looks like a dump -- literally, the city dump. The video of Chris and family at Myrtle Beach has been now taken down from YouTube, as well as most of the videos put up courtesy of Plunder. Jennifer Hart used her adopted children as props in her social media posts. She was a creep who wound up getting her kids killed for her control freak fuckery. American Murder: The Family Next Door focuses on the 2018 disappearance of Shanann Watts and her two young . I cant come back like this. Only parents can say that. No, not at all R256. I assume she was young and fit back then? She then went to work in Charlotte, NC for a middle eastern guy that owned a tire and wheel business called Dirty South. But judges usually have some discretion in the awarding of child support, which can include maintaining a house for the use of the children. Shanann was still very good friends with her ex husbands mother too. My dear Lord, she set the most amazing trap on Chris, by putting them in crushing debt AGAIN, which prohibited him from even being able to come up with a measly 10k to hire a lawyer to start the divorce process. He withdrew the girls from school before the cops got involved. Anyway, its amazing that theres another chapter to this story; I wonder what the CO investigators could have possibly flown out to Wisconsin to hear, or what Chris could possibly think is big enough to have them come out there for. Im linking the other active DL thread (focused on Chris Watts) below. R220, did you see that house? In response to comments on the post, Shanann said that it was a '3 foot doll' that had been wrapped in 'their twister tarp thing'. An accomplice would have driven her car out to the site, they would have detonated the explosion and voila. The description of what he did to those little girls. Become a contributor - post when you want with no ads. R231, thats a very good point. 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